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In the past week, I had the opportunity to try out 2 new offerings:
AC's 777 ( in J to NRT), and SQ's new F class ( yesterday SIN-TPE).
What a difference!
While AC's flat seats are a big improvement over the 345, they are somewhat
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claustrophobic and constrained in the shoulder area. The IFE, as discussed
on several threads here, is a joke.
The new SQ F seats are just amazing! Lots of room for 2 people to sit side
by side. What I found astounding is that their new J seats are identical
to the F seats - as the crew told me the only difference is in the service
and amenities. I would consider flying the J instead of F since my main
concern is seat comfort - not food and liquor. There are no overhead
bins - all carryons can and do fit under the secondary seat in front of you.
In also functions as a foot rest that can be used throughout the flight,
similar to the AC one, but extends the full 3 feet or so across the seat.
Their tables are easily 3 times the size of the AC ones - so you can have your
meal and laptop out at the same time ( with room for a companion's meal
on the table at the same time)
Equally amzing is the IFE. A choice of 100 movies VOD, countless TV
shows, but best of all was their music selection. Absolutely mind blowing.
There are countless CDs available, and you can create your own playlist
from a selection of what must be over 10,000 songs. I was disappointed
when we landed and I was not even 1/2 way through my playlist.
the video screen seems to be as large as my home TV ( not quite - but
it must be about a 22" screen).
I now understand why they are restricting access to these seats to all
but those paying the highest fares. I don't like it, but I understand.
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/firstclass/seatfeatures.jsp?
Not quite the same it would appear... nevertheless:
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/businessclass/seatfeatures.jsp
Yeah, AC has to deal with silly things like laws and human rights. :rolleyes:
Yeah, and unlike SQ, AC doesn't force people to become flight attendants.
Are they really the same? I mean the finish is different but they must be better in some way? Or just the amenity kit + food + pjs + size of screen?
Now the second front is opening up with the new Middle Eastern carriers, and SQ and CX must scramble to hold the market.
EK is leading the pack of that group.
In the past week, I had the opportunity to try out 2 new offerings:
AC's 777 ( in J to NRT), and SQ's new F class ( yesterday SIN-TPE).
What a difference!
Any pictures of SQ 'F' Class?
I love the FA to passenger ratio they are showing in the photo. Although the product and service is great, it is certainly a different world where you can hire FAs based on their ability to fit into a uniform and dump them when they get too old. Don't think AC will be able to compete in that playing field.
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Yeah, AC has to deal with silly things like laws and human rights. :rolleyes:
Now there's are apples to apples comparison. A First Class seat compared to a Business Class seat. :rolleyes:
What I found astounding is that their new J seats are identical to the F seats
Not quite the same it would appear... nevertheless:
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/businessclass/seatfeatures.jsp
Nevertheless, quite a bit of difference it would seem.
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/firstclass/index.jsp
"For the privileged few, the ultimate indulgence awaits." :rolleyes:
UA announces its major upgrading for international business class later today, along with several other US airlines that are revealing details of interiors for their new 787 and 777 fleets....
As for SQ, it is running scared becuse carriers in the middle east are ready to eat it for breakfast! These carriers have the resources to provide all the perks for less money and still keep the allure of a premium product.
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In the past week, I had the opportunity to try out 2 new offerings:
AC's 777 ( in J to NRT), and SQ's new F class ( yesterday SIN-TPE).
What a difference!
While AC's flat seats are a big improvement over the 345, they are somewhat
claustrophobic and constrained in the shoulder area. The IFE, as discussed
on several threads here, is a joke.
The new SQ F seats are just amazing! Lots of room for 2 people to sit side
by side. What I found astounding is that their new J seats are identical
to the F seats - as the crew told me the only difference is in the service
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and amenities. I would consider flying the J instead of F since my main
concern is seat comfort - not food and liquor. There are no overhead
bins - all carryons can and do fit under the secondary seat in front of you.
In also functions as a foot rest that can be used throughout the flight,
similar to the AC one, but extends the full 3 feet or so across the seat.
Their tables are easily 3 times the size of the AC ones - so you can have your
meal and laptop out at the same time ( with room for a companion's meal
on the table at the same time)
Equally amzing is the IFE. A choice of 100 movies VOD, countless TV
shows, but best of all was their music selection. Absolutely mind blowing.
There are countless CDs available, and you can create your own playlist
from a selection of what must be over 10,000 songs. I was disappointed
when we landed and I was not even 1/2 way through my playlist.
the video screen seems to be as large as my home TV ( not quite - but
it must be about a 22" screen).
I now understand why they are restricting access to these seats to all
but those paying the highest fares. I don't like it, but I understand.
Now there's are apples to apples comparison. A First Class seat compared to a Business Class seat. :rolleyes:
"For the privileged few, the ultimate indulgence awaits."
That would be me.
..... generally putting up with a transfer at SIN to get to their ultimate destination. Thus SQ must provide a service that truly outclasses anything else, but it also earns a payback from that customer. .....
When connecting at SIN, passengers do not have to go through immigration and custom inspection nonsense which are also the case for most other Asian airports.
Even on SQ's regional J service (http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/cabin/businessclass/index.jsp), e.g., HKG/SIN, a flight of about 3.5 hours, SQ offers a lot more than AC's J on a route of similar distance, e.g., YYZ/YYC.
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Not to mention the actual customer. SQ is in a market where its front cabin customers, in both premium cabins, are paying for that service and generally putting up with a transfer at SIN to get to their ultimate destination. Thus SQ must provide a service that truly outclasses anything else, but it also earns a payback from that customer. (If SQ relied solely on SIN generated customers, it would be bankrupt quite quickly.) AC is providing primarily point-to-point service for Canadian customers with a smattering of foreigners added in. For this market the new seat is quite adequate and a leap forward from the previous product. Since the vast majority of carriers have adopted the crable/cucoon seat for their J cabins, and also their F cabins when those are offered, AC is pretty much in line with the status quo. SQ needs to stand out from the pack and thus adopted a more revolutionary approach, and calculated reduced premium capacity with improved yields.
What I found astounding is that their new J seats are identical
to the F seats - as the crew told me the only difference is in the service
and amenities.
And the size of the PTV.
I love the FA to passenger ratio they are showing in the photo. Although the product and service is great, it is certainly a different world where you can hire FAs based on their ability to fit into a uniform and dump them when they get too old. Don't think AC will be able to compete in that playing field.
When connecting at SIN, passengers do not have to go through immigration and custom inspection nonsense which are also the case for most other Asian airports.
This is the design of any transit airport, which SIN is. Were it to rely on solely local customers, it would go broke. HKG also provides similar transit with minimal customs, as does YVR and YYZ now. That's the whole point of creating a transcontinental transit airport in support of a home airline that uses this strategy to create a viable market when the home market is miniscule.
Even on SQ's regional J service (http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/cabin/businessclass/index.jsp), e.g., HKG/SIN, a flight of about 3.5 hours, SQ offers a lot more than AC's J on a route of similar distance, e.g., YYZ/YYC.
That's a pretty unfair comparison as this is not considered fully a regional route but is a feeder SQ uses to compete with CX and thus provides full premium cabin service. You cannot compare a domestic transcon of this length to a sector that is catering to high income business travelers between two or more countries. Compare SQs two-cabin regional Asian service and you might be closer to the mark, and I think AC would hold its own. In fact, compare SQ's regional Asian F (which is actual C seating and service) on most routes with AC's YYZ-YVR flown on its international configured 330s, 340s and 763s, and AC leads in most categories.
When connecting at SIN, passengers do not have to go through immigration and custom inspection nonsense which are also the case for most other Asian airports.
That's why many people in New Zealand have decided to transit via Asia as oppose to via NA.
Of course they're not identical. The overall concept is similar, but to charge the premium between C/J and F, there is even more space and enhanced features in F.
UA announces its major upgrading for international business class later today, along with several other US airlines that are revealing details of interiors for their new 787 and 777 fleets. None are adopting the SQ approach because none can afford to. All are using some form of flat bed seat.
As for SQ, it is running scared becuse carriers in the middle east are ready to eat it for breakfast! These carriers have the resources to provide all the perks for less money and still keep the allure of a premium product. They offer an exotic connection point -- afterall, they are all using the same model SQ and CX successfully pioneered in the 70s -- and are gearing up with new equipment to steal the customer base of the two Asian carriers. This cabin is SQ's response to keeping the top end of the premium market in Europe headed to/from Asia and Australia connecting at SIN rather than doing it through the Gulf. It is also their response to the home European and Japanese carriers to syphon premium customers off the non-stops they offer.
This is a very different marketing game and scenario. SQ and CX used to fight a one-front war against the flag carriers like BA, AF, LH, UA, NW et al that flew between their home countries and Asia non-stop (and Asian carriers like JAL, NH et al to Europe and NAmerica) and thus made up for the connection at SIN with premium cabins and service levels, and the exclusive lounge at SIN. Bot SQ and CX balanced the traffic and played a nice gentlemanly game of equilibrium, splitting the market nicely and profitcably.
Now the second front is opening up with the new Middle Eastern carriers, and SQ and CX must scramble to hold the market. The home European and American carriers still have the non-stop advantage, but are adjusting their premium services accordingly: BA's revamp; LH's First Class terminal at FRA and HON facilities at secondary MUC; AC's new cabins; and today's announcements by US carriers -- delayed like AC's because of financial problems in the past couple of years (and their own fighting of a two front war with LCCs at home, and rising fuel prices and declining US$ abroad).
This is a lot more than an airline seat, but those are the gimmicks that fill those seats as a huge amount of new premium capacity gets dumped into the market by competitors who don't have to play by the same bottom line, investor rules.
The new SQ F seats are just amazing! Lots of room for 2 people to sit side
by side. What I found astounding is that their new J seats are identical
to the F seats - as the crew told me the only difference is in the service
and amenities. I would consider flying the J instead of F since my main
concern is seat comfort - not food and liquor. There are no overhead
bins - all carryons can and do fit under the secondary seat in front of you.
In also functions as a foot rest that can be used throughout the flight,
similar to the AC one, but extends the full 3 feet or so across the seat.
Yes the SQ new F seat is very roomy. I recently sampled it on SQ862. For sleeping, I definately prefer the new seat but for sitting upright, I prefer the old skysuite since the wideness of the new seat at times makes you feel you are sliding from one side to another. Despite some people's complaints, I certainly don't mind flipping the seat over to make it into a bed mode.
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