then where is it proper etiquette? Technically, if you wanted to, could you tip-toe around these two topics for decades at a time?
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Politics and religion are often terrible topics for good etiquette, and it's often engaged by those who want to make somebody sway somebody's view. However, it can be used in points of debate and discussion, but I'd try sticking away from taking any side, since sides almost always cause arguments. If Its Tuesday, This Must Be Belgium::
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worst thing you could talk always creates an argument, think of fun things like Celebs or holidays.
That's an old-fashioned concept...it only applies to an army barrack-room...
yes
I think this only applies to people you aren't especially close to. If you're around close friends, then go for it.
Yes, if it is among strangers.
avoid it to the maximum.
Some people might feel that its bad etiquette, but what they are really showing is their lack of knowledge in both those area. Those are both areas people are intimidated into not talking about. Fear of failure and with religion, it cuts to the chase on issues that are cut and dry.
Politics, especially this election cycle can draw some unmerited criticism due to the "racist" label. One cannot speak out for fear of being called a racist. So in the end, this time around more so then ever before both topics are off the table of discussion at meal time or the work place.
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I have also heard that point about bars and pubs as well. Anyway then what is left to talk about; one another? Not very nice either!
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Not amongst friends it isn't, although I would watch out in a group of people who you have just met, it causes arguements and tensions that people just don't want over dinner.
no.. those are the two times and places it is not appropriate. Dinner time is for talking about one another, or their day and so forth.. talking about politics and religion is a no-no..
and also in most work-places, it is not allowed.
I worked in an office cubicle environment where the supervisor would stand up and debate and bicker with one of his employees over Jesus and how the bible was rewritten and all this stuff.. and this was to a Jehovas Witness.. for ALL to hear.. and it was non-stop.. I can tell you that I lost all respect for him and others were looking at him like he was a $hitbag..
he could have gotten in a lot of trouble by HR... if someone ratted him out..
There are rules about that nowadays.... you don't talk about religion, politics and your salary at work...
It really depends on the audience. Some people have very strong feelings about these things and cannot get past people with views that diverge from theirs. While this may not be a big deal if it is not someone that you care to have any sort of relationship with, it is a bit problematic when they are your relatives, neighbors, or work colleagues whom you do not have the luxury of avoiding. My wife's family would be appalled if they knew our political views, so we just keep them to ourselves.
It's proper to talk politics or religion at any event or place that is specifically set aside to discuss those topics. That includes debates, political meetings, class rooms, 18th century coffee houses --- in other words plenty of opportunities outside of dinner and work. Of course, families and friends can agree on their own list of acceptable dinner or party topics. For work though, it's better to stick strictly to work.
If you're with friends and the topics come up then you can have a discussion, but at dinner you need to relax and keep the conversation neutral, ditto workplace.
politice is acceptable any time, I'd say, but watch it doesn't become a bore
Religion is best kept to a group of people you know well just in case you upset or insult anyone, unknowingly
I would say to be careful about that. People have very strong view points in those topic areas. It can become very confrontational and explosive rather quickly. I don't know about the ettiquette part, but common sense dictates that you do not want to be blamed for creating a hostile workplace.
its ok to talk in these situations as long as you have the sense to stop before it gets heated or personal , its called self control .
Im from the south, and my mom and dad always taught me that there are 3 things you don't talk about with company: Sex, Religion, and Politics. It either will make a fool of you or get tension started in the room. I've just learned to keep my mouth shut, and listen. Good Luck
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If it's bad etiquette to talk about politics and religion at dinner and in the work place..?